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Subject: Lg45 12007

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Perhaps like me you've seen the Brightwells ad for their auction on Sep 27th. What looks like an LG45 Sanction One saloon. Their ad says chassis 12007, if so then it's really early? The LG45 saloon used by WO Bentley as a test car was chassis 12006. It has survived (now in Ireland?).
But 12007 might be better described as a paddock find, not a barn find!

Subject: Re: Lg45 12007

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Here's a link. Sixth lot down (a bit further down now as new lots are added above).

Must be earlier than the date stated (1938) if it's an early car. A project that looks like it's been stored outside under a tarpaulin.

David

Subject: Re: Lg45 12007

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"Complete car for full-restoration; lots of potential to make a very special car indeed"

By that, I suspect the auctioneers mean, one needs bottomless pits of money to restore this car.

I note on social media there are a fair few pages appearing about the practice of selling wrecks as barn-finds, with Photo-shop spliced Haynes Manual front covers as well.

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Subject: Re: Lg45 12007

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For some reason, my computer isn't letting me see the "full description".
They say the reg. is CUD494, yet the remnants of the actual number plate indicate it's DU--9-. So why expect any degree of accuracy if they can't even be bothered to look at their own photos?!
It is in reality DUC494, showing in the 1962 membership list as owned by Tom Pinguey in Beckenham. The entire range of DUC, ie DUC1 - DUC999, was issued in London solely in January 1937...so there you have a pretty accurate date for first registration of this LG45. Coincidentally, I bought a pair of LG45 headlamp bar mounted horns from Pinguey in the late 1970s, a strange and not entirely pleasant individual. Horns are missing in the photo...
Computer still "Connecting" to the full description, so I'm giving up on that. Going by the degree of accuracy in their basic info, I daresay they state this car needs "minor recommissioning". With horns and much underbonnet detail missing, how can they state "complete car?"
Laurence

Subject: Re: Lg45 12007

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I had a look at the engine photo and it seems to be either sanction 1, which would be correct for an early LG 45, or an M45 engine fitted later.

The best fate for this car really seems to be to be turned into a fake Rapide or a le mans replica, there are much better saloons about.

Perhaps it ran around on trade plates as demonstrator in its early life.

M34

Colin

Subject: Re: Lg45 12007

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Not familiar with the earlier sanctions, but might that cast iron water outlet at the front of the head indicate a replacement engine from a lesser vehicle?

Laurence

Subject: Re: Lg45 12007

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It is an M45 engine. Gearbox is G9 .. car has been in that spot [Welsh Marches] for many many years and many many people tried to acquire it...

Subject: Re: Lg45 12007

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I have dug out some photos of this car sent to me 4 or 5 years or more ago. I thought it was possibly the same car and it is. It was in a bad state then so no doubt worse now.
The description on the back confirms it has an M45 engine. It also has an altered boot area (extended c1960). Built Autumn 1935 but not registered till 1937 for some reason.
David

Subject: Re: Lg45 12007

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Sold for £30,000 plus 10% buyers premium.

Subject: Re: Lg45 12007

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Don't forget the additional £600 vat too. Thus, the grand total paid by someone for this treasure was £33,600.