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Subject: Play in Marles steering box

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I like to adjust the play in a Marles steering box. Does anyone know
if this can be done with the steering box still in place? Who will
supply eventual needed shims? And, in case I'll have to take the
box out, what is the best way to do?
I will be greatful to learn from an experienced forum member.

FRED

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Subject: Re: Play in Marles steering box

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Hi Fred,

What car is this for?. It's a horrible job to do with it fully in situ but you should not have to remove it completely, as this is also a horrible job.Adjustment is easy when you get to it, and it transforms the steering so is well worth doing.

If you can tell us what car it is fitted to, I will give you some more information.

Colin M34

Subject: Re: Play in Marles steering box

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Colin, Please post the info here so we all can learn! Thanks, Barry

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Subject: Re: Play in Marles steering box

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Hi Barry,

Your M45 does not have a Marles box, it has a Bishop Cam one which is different.

Colin

Subject: Re: Play in Marles steering box

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Hi Colin,
Thanks for your reply.
It is for my 3L LC. There is some play in the rocker shaft and I
loose some oil. As I cannot remove the drop arm withour a press
I was planning to arrange the shimms on the back of the house.
Of course I shall have to skip the fitting of an oil seal. Do you
think this can be done with the steering box in place?
And how do I get shimms for the proper adjustment?
Regards, Fred Spee S.33

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Subject: Re: Play in Marles steering box

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Hi Fred,

is is Marles or Bishop Cam? They fitted both on LC 3L Lagondas. If the shaft is worn then is will need re-bushing and that requires full removal of the box.

Colin

Subject: Re: Play in Marles steering box

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Hi Colin,

It is a Marles one. Do you know how I can get it off?
What do I have to start with, the part with the trottle and
ingniton levers, or do I have to do the steering column first?
I know the club supplies new parts. I am just afraid to
damage the steering box.

Regards, Fred.

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Subject: Re: Play in Marles steering box

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I had the Marles steering box & column for my LG6 completely rebuilt including machining & fitting a shaft seal by a steering specialist firm in Wimbledon about 10 years ago. It was only £140 including all parts, so was literally a no-brainer to have them do it rather than buy the parts & try to do it myself.

Laurence

Subject: Re: Play in Marles steering box

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Hi Lawrence,

Sounds great! Having the bush and seal done seems a no-brainer.

Can you confirm that Lagondas went back to Marles with the LG6 from Bishop Cam which was used on cars from around 1932? Both my 16/80 and my M45 both have Bishop Cam, whereas my 1927 HC 2 Litre has a "vintage" Marles box.

Presumably they fitted Marles boxes when they went to independent front suspension on the LG6.

Colin

Subject: Re: Play in Marles steering box

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Hi Laurence
Was the firm in Wimbledon called Steering Services ? If so I can thoroughly recomend them as well to Fred (usual disclaimer - only a satisfied customer). They have rebuilt 2 steering boxes for me (M45 and LG45) the last one about 10 years ago. I think Peter Whenman always used them.
I would usually have a go at anything myself but I think for a "safety critical" thing like this it is best left to an "expert".
The last phone number I have for them (in UK) was 0208 5409756. Hope this helps Fred.
Bill