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Jan 09, 2015 12:13 am
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Jan 09, 2015 2:09 am
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Subject: Re: Upcoming Artcurial Auction Of A Weatherbeaten Hoard
I believe there is sufficient discarded factory LG45 bodywork around that that this can be restored as is...it's complete, so please, whoever buys it, not another racer!

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Jan 09, 2015 12:13 pm
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Subject: Re: Upcoming Artcurial Auction Of A Weatherbeaten Hoard
Most of the body seems to be there so hopefully this can be restored and originality retained.

Unreal to think this car was bought with preservation in mind...from the previous link/video, I got the impression the cars were largely just dirty/weatherbeaten, but these pictures (and the zoom facility is great!) show truly advanced neglect! The rusted out toolcase bottom indicates this car must have stood outside and not under cover for some time. To be fair, maybe the car was bought in this condition...I wonder when it was last on the road?

The km/h speedo is interesting, I wonder how many prewar Lagondas have those. Also note the non-Lucas headlamps, but above all, the outstanding originality of this car...which makes its condition all the more shameful.

It will be very interesting to see how this fares at the auction. The estimate has to be a come-on, unless people are tiring of barn finds, or overwhelmed by the sheer number of such cars coming up at the same time. I seem to recall the first few cars at the Ellard sale sold for reasonably sensible prices, but soon some sort of hysteria prevailed!

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Jan 11, 2015 9:18 pm
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Subject: Re: Upcoming Artcurial Auction Of A Weatherbeaten Hoard
I notice that the UK-registered M45 saloon [see above] is not in the sale- so I wonder if it can be assumed that this is one of the cars the family have retained to have restored for themselves?
 

Jan 13, 2015 5:44 pm
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Subject: Re: Upcoming Artcurial Auction Of A Weatherbeaten Hoard
Quote by h14:

The km/h speedo is interesting, I wonder how many prewar Lagondas have those.

Laurence

And also 'eau' and Litres on water/fuel gauges yet 'oil' not huile on the oil pressure gauge ...
 

Feb 06, 2015 3:43 pm
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Feb 07, 2015 10:12 pm
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Subject: Re: Upcoming Artcurial Auction Of A Weatherbeaten Hoard
82000€ plus taxes. It me ans néerlandais 98000€
Philippe Machard de Gramont
 

Feb 07, 2015 10:13 pm
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Subject: Re: Upcoming Artcurial Auction Of A Weatherbeaten Hoard
Sorry for the french correction
It means 98000€
Philippe Machard de Gramont
 

Feb 08, 2015 5:19 pm
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Subject: Re: Upcoming Artcurial Auction Of A Weatherbeaten Hoard
This auction was truely amazing. I watched the live stream on the internet. Instead of one auctioneer they had two speaking at the same time so creating more hectic and the feeling that the buyer has to rush. The asking price of one auctioneer was not always the same as the others..and they had good publicity before the auction: Lost treasures, found in a Chateau, Alain Delon...You never could sell such a rusty car found in your backyard for more than their estimate prices, but they managed to sell them at multiple of the estimate. Is it all the central banks money printing that people buy whatever they can get just to convert paper into something real?

I wonder who bought all these extreme project cars. For many cars I can not imagine that restoration is economical if you give it to professionals in Europe or US. May be in Russia? Or are there so many freshly retired around seeking a big project? Or were they bought as artwork rather than a restoration project?

When you check for some cars on the internet you can get a restored one at only a little higher price: best example a Citroen 5CV trefle sold for 23.8k EUR

The rotten Lagonda LG45 DHC sold for 97k EUR. http://www.artcurial.com/en/asp/fullCatalogue.asp?salelot=2651++++++36+&refno=10514412
A professional restoration of the Lagonda LG45, what will it cost 200k EUR ? Here is an example of a nice one that sold in summer 2014 for 117k GBP http://www.classic-auctions.com/...headCoupe-37843.aspx

The Maserati A6G Berlinetta sold for 2Mio EUR http://www.artcurial.com/en/asp/fullCatalogue.asp?salelot=2651++++++58+&refno=10514400
A perfectly restored one sold in 2013 for 1.6Mio USD http://www.goodingco.com/vehicle/1955-maserati-a6g54-berlinetta/

May be the Saoutchik Talbot Lago T26 SWB even that it sold at 1.7 Mio EUR may make sense economically. Let the restoration cost 500k. But such a car will win at Pepple Beach or similar and may sell for 3-5 Mio afterwards.

I really would like to know who all the buyers were

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